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A moral dilema or do you go with your gut?

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By vadagh (Contact - View My Woyano)
Published Thu 07 Jun 2007, 365 Views, 16 Comments

I have recently been involved in the periphery of a lot of spats and grumbles between a couple I know. I know you'll all have been there so I'll explain the situation.

You have a freind you've known for several years, they get a new partner you have no real feelings for, they are just there. The couple have a few paddies at each other and you're buddy comes round for a good bitch and moaning session after one of these occurances. They are quite happily having a grumble when your phone goes, the number is blocked. Not knowing who it is you answer, it is the partner, going nuts and sobbing on the phone that thing have gone wrong and have you seen their other half. That particular other half is sat opposite you with a glass of wine in one hand and making frantic I'm not here signals and yuo have'nt seen me.

What do you do??

 I know what I did but I'd like your opinions on this one aswell.



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    georgie ~ 14 months ago
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    What an uncomfortable situation this couple has placed you in. Now rather than addressing their conflicting views as a partnership, they have dragged you as a third party in the fray, creating an emotional triangle. It's not uncommon for this to happen to a friend or family member when a couple relationship is on the rocks. What is especially sad is when this happens to a child in the family, and the child begins to express the difficult feelings of the parents. There are so many strong feelings like anger and fear pouring out that it can be overwhelming for one or both partners and they pull in a third party to dispel some of their own mounting anxiety. What is difficult for that third party, as a friend, is that suddenly all of the anxiety from someone else's relationship is suddenly dumped in your lap, and you are left scrambling not to get sucked into the couple's negative patterns of interaction.

    For friends who already have a rescuing instinct or a keen desire to help, it's easy to get swept into the emotional storm, mistakenly thinking that perhaps you could be the perfect person to anchor the couple and get them back to safety. The problem here is that soon the triangulated person will get caught in the crossfire, when partners pressure him to take sides or to support one position over the other. Then it's a case of divided loyalties, and ensuing difficulties in the once good friendship that has been tainted by loose boundaries between the couple relationship and the healthy, separate friendship. What once seemed a good source of support, now becomes the third party's death sentence. When a friend from outside has to mediate a couple relationship and the couple fails to do this for themselves, the outlook is not very bright for everyone involved. Both relationships are now in jeopardy, and the situation may call for an unbiased third party who can help the couple sort out healthier boundaries, ways of coping with distress, and new communication strategies to settle disagreements that do not involve triangulating friends. This third party is called a couples counselor!

    You best bet is to steer clear of couple's disputes, and remind them that they need to draw on their own resources to handle difficulties when they arise. You can be a supportive friend by listening, but I would avoid advice-giving or lying to protect the partner who is crying on your shoulder. I might have handed the phone to my friend and said, "Here is your wife/girlfriend who is ready to talk to you now."

    I'm curious to hear how you handled such a tough situation!
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      Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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      Yeah I think its rude they put you in that situation to begin with. Id want no part of it, and Id probably advise them to work it out amongst themselves.

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        Tequila Rose ~ 14 months ago
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        I'd tell the tell the one on the phone that you were not getting into the middle of it.. and that if/when you saw her partner you would tell him to call her. THen tell the friend to fix things and not involve you in it. However, if you were mutual friends iwth them both- equally- it might be different- but since you have no real loyalty to the girl- i'd not sell out your friend if he didn't want to talk to her
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          Moosetracks ~ 14 months ago
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          I think it depends on the severity of the situation. How long have they been together? Is this a BS spat that has no real impact on the relationship and is just blowing off steam? Is this a long term problem in a long term relationship that comes down to personality incompatibility? It's a little hard to call when you don't have the whole picture.

          However, I don't get stuck in these situations very often, because my friends know I am about solving not whining. The whole bitch session is fine, and I am there for them, but they better expect a straight call at the end of it if they want me involved. That usually involves, "I hear what you are saying, and feel for you, but now you have to crap or get off the pot. What do you want out of this relationship, and what are you going to do to get it. Take some responsibility, because unless your partner is psyco you had a part to play in this."

          If the other partner calls me, I would calm them down as much as possible and let them know I'll pass on the message. Then let my friend know in no uncertain terms that putting me in that situation is Not okay. Then tell them that they better deal with it right quick because the situation is going to get worse if it is not handled in a calm and respectful manor. If they need someone to mediate, then they should consider professional help or an end to the situation. I know it sounds cold, but I've been through an ugly relationship, and life is too short to make both people miserable. Not dealing with things as they come up or keeping things from your partner is the kiss of death for a relationship, and lies even in the smallest form come back to bite you.
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            randomglenn ~ 14 months ago
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            I would probably try and see that they both need help and support them, help them both to fucking work it out . preferable in a spiked arena with pointy swords and other dangerous ,,,,, stuff . sorry its been that sort of week .
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              georgie ~ 14 months ago
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              How did you handle it Vadagh? I'm on the edge of my seat in anticipation for the final outcome!
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                vadagh ~ 14 months ago
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                This one was an easy one, I sat him down and pointed out that the relationship had been going nowhere since day one as they don't talk. The girl is nowhere near his intellectual standard. But she does look nice in a short skirt/bikini etc. If he wanted things to work out they had to start with a common ground outside the bedroom. Next I told him this is the only advice I will give him as he already knew he was being used. After that I told him when things go tits up I'll still be there as a buddy for him and pick up the pieces. See simple bloke solution. point out he's being a muppet and to wake up and smell the coffee, then go to the pub!l!
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                  georgie ~ 14 months ago
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                  COME ON! Vadagh! You mean I spent an hour deep in thought and typing out a long winded explanation, and then you come along with your "simple bloke solution". This is one of those days when I wish I was a guy. Arrgh! :)
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                    vadagh ~ 14 months ago
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                    I did distill it a bit so as not to confuse the issue I was trying to explore, it took two lies to his Mrs as to his whereabouts, a full bottle of wine each and an exploration of the depth of his feelings for the girl and what he wanted the relationship to do/go. After that I told him off and took him to the pub to let his subconcious work on the problem and solution I had given him, whilst I beat him at pool.
                    See us blokes can be less simple when we want to be.
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                      georgie ~ 14 months ago
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                      So what did he finally decide to do?
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                        vadagh ~ 14 months ago
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                        Dunno, have,nt seen him since . Hes been at work, but the mrs is still at the local supermarket, so I dont know if all went well or not.
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                          randomglenn ~ 13 months ago
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                          Spiked pit and swords . Can't really go wrong.
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                            will ~ 13 months ago
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                            your awesome...
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                              rehana ~ 13 months ago
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                              you *are awesome >=]
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                            rehana ~ 13 months ago
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                            p.s i would have gave the phone to him and continued drinking my wine. If all is fair in love and war; i'd rather not get injured in any unnecessary cross fire. thx.
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                              randomglenn ~ 13 months ago
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                              I really feel so awsome right now its amazing. Vadagh , hopefully by now you have realised that you can't get involved , you can however listen like the caring kind friend you seem to be.
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                                This is my two cents...

                                   
                                Hey you know AdGuy always gets the last word! ;)

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