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The best leader there ever was..

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By Tequila Rose (Contact - View My Woyano)
Published Wed 13 Jun 2007, 1188 Views, 33 Comments

There have been many comments, articles, entries about how BAD the current leadership in the world is.

I am curious to know from everyone who they think was THE BEST LEADER in history- Whether it was of a political movement, a nation, an empire.

What makes them great in your eyes and do their leadership qualities affect how you view and judge those in power today? Even if they were not a popular leader or even if they were misguided but had good intentions, please feel free to bring it up. What ideals did they have that you liked.

 This is not a open call for a debate about who was the best- I'd like everyone to offer their own opinion without fear of criticism.

*note* "Best" as noted below- in what i'm looking for here- is how you personally define that term for yourself. Was the best leader in your opinion someone who conquerored and held onto territory for the longest- or was it the leader who was the most benevolent to their people. Were they the "best" because they created a legacy or simply because they were at the right place and at the right time and stepped up?



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    JV ~ 16 months ago
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    I know I'm being a geek, and I'm not answering the question but my answer is.... Jean Luc Picard
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      Tequila Rose ~ 16 months ago
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      Seriously- good call- but ..you forgot to add "WHY"
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        JV ~ 16 months ago
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        Do I really have to answer that? It's because he was the only person to be assimilated by the BORG and get back alive. + He's a good people person.
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          DragonLord ~ 14 months ago
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          Actually JV, that's not even accurate - 7 of 9 from voyager was successfully de-assimilated also - and she's got a great rack too *L*
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        Dr. Fallon ~ 16 months ago
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        "Best" is a very ambiguous term. Do we mean most effective? If so, then someone like Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin might qualify. Do we mean most righteous? Then you would have to include Gandhi and Jesus -- the polar opposites of the three listed above.

        The "best" leader in terms of creating an empire? Alexander the Great and the Roman emperor Trajan.

        Now ask me who the worst leader in history is. I won't hesitate with that answer...
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          Loves Bloc Party ~ 16 months ago
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          who is the worst?

          lol
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          Dr. Fallon ~ 16 months ago
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          By the way, very interesting question, and I'm looking forward to hearing answers. But I wish you could clarify "best" a little...
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            Tequila Rose ~ 16 months ago
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            No..i'm asking for the BEST as it relates to your opinion of leadership- whether that IS the most effective or the most righteous. Who is it to YOU personally that has stood out as your ideal.
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              Loves Bloc Party ~ 16 months ago
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              Theres no "best" leader for me because there are so many that have been great leaders that how could I choose just one?

              My picks include Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, Peter Benenson (Amnesty), Marla Ruzicka (died in Iraq trying to help orphaned children), Jimmy Carter (his work for Habitat, Human Rights), Oprah (her work to help children), and the list goes on and on and on and on and on...(too many to list)

              I particularly like people who stand up for human rights, children and real freedom of speech. I tend to admire peaceful activists and people with more progressive values.
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                Loves Bloc Party ~ 16 months ago
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                Betty Williams (led march in Northern Ireland to protest the deaths of children)

                she belongs in that list as well
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                  graeme ~ 16 months ago
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                  This is a great post - well done! For me, the best leader was Winston Churchill because he led Britain through a period of intense danger (i.e. the Second world war) with tremendous courage, shrewdness and dignity. He stayed focused, didn't suffer fools gladly, took some serious knocks along the way, managed very complex international relations (particularly with Stalin) and came out victorious. Top man!!
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                    georgie ~ 16 months ago
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                    The best leaders, in my opinion, are those with great wisdom and intuitive understanding of the human condition. They are the leaders who don't need the spotlight but rather empower others to achieve their true potential. They teach and they inspire their communities. They are passionate, balanced, and have vision.

                    As to who I would nominate, I'm thinking of great teachers and mentors I've had. Nobody famous. You don't need fame to be a great leader.
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                      Tequila Rose ~ 16 months ago
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                      No its very true you don't need that- but for the sake of the post.. if you DID have to come up with someone famous - who would it be? :) I know we all have personal role models and mentors- but is there anyone on the grand scale that has inspired you by their actions?
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                      Loves Bloc Party ~ 16 months ago
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                      good point
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                        Loves Bloc Party ~ 16 months ago
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                        (that good point was for georgie)
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                          snak ~ 16 months ago
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                          For me - the best leader in History is - King Arthur.

                          Now before you cry 'I meant a REAL leader', let me elucidate.King Arthur has, to my satisfaction, been identified as a warleader from the Anglesea area of Wales. He was not a king, not even of 'royal' blood, but the leader of the warband of a local baron ('Pendragon', The Definitive Account Of The Origins Of Arthur. Steve Blake & Scott LLoyd, Rider Books, 2002).

                          Arthur did not unite all England. He did not have a round table. Whether there was a Lancelot is doubtful (or if there was, he was not called that), but Arthur did exist. And stories of his exploits in the feudal environment in which he lived have survived, albeit glamourised and embellished.

                          Whilst his birth and death years cannot be pinpointed precisely, he lived in the 6th C AD. That's 1500 years ago. Not perhaps, as long ago as Jesus, Moses, any of the Roman Emperors or Great Alex, but a 'best' leader because....

                          The 'King Arthur' story, along with its messages, morals and promises of hope, is known around the world - by children as well as adults. In the main, Roman Emperors (et al) are only known of (and appreciated by) adults (and hated of course by 15 year old History Students). King Arthur represents England and all that is English, without, I might add, any promotion of the notion that English is best, despite being Welsh, lol.

                          The King Arthur story as we know it is a myth, of course. But what makes a myth? Assume for a moment, that you do something that is considered to be 'heroic'. It doesn't matter what that something is. You are labelled a Hero. After you die, you're still a hero until the last person that actually remembers you being alive dies. You then become a legend. After the last person (assuming this is not written down, or, if it is, the writing is lost or destroyed) who remembers someone being alive who remembered you when you were alive has gone, you become a myth.

                          And so, with Arthur. Myths get embellished; the past is always 'the golden age' and historic heroes bigger than normal.

                          What bothered me (for I'd always hoped that Arthur was Pagan), was that Arthur, it would seem, was a Christian and although the evidence for that may be debateable, it would appear that he helped spread Christianity (perhaps by dubious means, but hey, it was the 6th Century) through Northern Wales. But that's irrelevant.'King' Arthur is my bestest hero because 1500 years after his death, his story, grown in the telling, still inpires great things in both adults and children.

                          BTW. If you would like to get a 'feel' for the times of Arthur, read Katherine Kerr's Deverry series. It's fiction, yes, but a great read.
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                            snak ~ 16 months ago
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                            And Robin Hood, for similar reasons.
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                              randomglenn ~ 16 months ago
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                              snak NOOOOOO! king authur didn't have a round table? He didn't unite all of england and he lived in whales?
                              If all of that isn't real then i would like to see ME as world leader becuase i think i could do better at saying yes than anyone here . try me
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                                snak ~ 16 months ago
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                                Aw Random. I'm sorry. Notice I didn't mention St. Nicholas :)

                                As for seeing you as world leader, well I'm sure that we all have thought 'if I was in charge, it would be a better world because....' I know I have.
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                                  randomglenn ~ 16 months ago
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                                  Cheers snak , seeing as you did mention old saint nick then yes , he would probably be a great world leader . Christmas everyday!!!
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                                    Loves Bloc Party ~ 16 months ago
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                                    LOL
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                                      Tequila Rose ~ 16 months ago
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                                      I tie between Queen Elizabeth I and Joan of Arc.

                                      Both had to fight hard to earn respect from the world around them. They both had to face the fracticious nature of the Church. Although Joan would eventually lose that battle and be executed at a very early age- the fact that in her brief life span she commanded the french army- is amazing and thought provoking.

                                      And Elizabeth- starting young herself- the bastard child of henry VIII- stood by her convictions that the nation should be allowed to worship as they feel. She brought the golden age even though she had to leave her personal life behind her and rise above it all to become divine-like.
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                                        DragonLord ~ 14 months ago
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                                        Elizabeth 1 was the legitimate child of Anne Boleyn & Henry VIII. The baby was conceived illigitimately, but born into a marriage. Course, that marriage didn't last long - mummy lost her head over the slightest things *G*
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                                          Tequila Rose ~ 14 months ago
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                                          Very true- but she was later "bastardized" by the church when Henry didn't want to have ole ball n chain boleyn around anymore ;)
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                                            snak ~ 14 months ago
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                                            Elizabeth the first WAS a bastard. Look how she treated Sir Walter Raleigh!
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                                        vadagh ~ 16 months ago
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                                        Adolph Hitler, he took a broken nation and broken people and remolded them in less than 10 years into one of the most industrial, nationalistic and powerful military forces the modern world has known( inventing many military techniques still in use today). Through WW2 doctors based in the channel islands many modern day plastic surgery techniques were discovered, the germans did discover an awful lot before, during and after WW2.
                                        I am not condoning his politics & his tactics as a general left alot to be desired etc. But as a leader and an inspiration he's up there with the best.
                                        I would also say Julius Caesar is one to rate, and if you want to go fictional I'd probably say Aruthur Duke of Crydee then Krondor from the Magician series of books.

                                        BTW snak you would be better off reading Taliesin, Merlin, Arthur and Pendragon by Stephen Lawhead. The Deverry Cycle and subequent books by Katherine Kerr revolve too much around the possibilities of reincarnation/ past lives and karma to get a proper feel for the times.
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                                          PANTERA ~ 16 months ago
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                                          Genghis Kahn. When he conquered a tribe, he would incorporate them into his army. With his thinking and planning, and the efforts of his hordes they created one of the biggest empire of our time.
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                                            snak ~ 16 months ago
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                                            vadagh - I possess those books and have indeed, read them. I agree with you about Kerr's reincarnation stuff, but a great story non-the-less. :o)
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                                              nikkic ~ 16 months ago
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                                              I'm with JV - Jean Luc Picard! Besides being assimilated by the Borg and returning, he also managed to upstage William Shatner, kill the queen borg, AND get help his android crew member feel human feelings! I mean Wow - what a guy! :D

                                              Second place for best leader - I'm pretty fond of Sandra Day O'Connor. While she wasn't a political figurehead, her place on the US Supreme Court as the first Woman Justice, and her opinions on tough legal and political subjects were often well-thought out, logical, and firmly routed in the needs of the people.

                                              but hey that's just my humble two cents....
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                                                Loves Bloc Party ~ 15 months ago
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                                                After reading this article I thought posting on this thread would be a great idea - since it highlights the GREAT leaders from the usa and the ABSOLUTE SHIT ones.

                                                http://www.rollingstone.c...orst_president_in_history

                                                i really agree with this leading historians"best" and "worst" leaders of the usa - past and present.

                                                :)
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                                                  rebelcause ~ 13 months ago
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                                                  I don't know if best is the "best" word to use, but the one's I think have been the most effective for change JFK and Reagan.
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                                                    comoagua ~ 13 months ago
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                                                    I would cite ataturk as the greatest leader, when has a country ever been singularly, willingly behind its leader other than turkey in the 1920's?
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                                                      Alistair Mad Scotsman ~ 12 months ago
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                                                      Moses had to be a pretty decent leader. What with red sea partings et al. And.. as light is being shed on him quite possibly being an egyption pharaoh... that would kinda be a double whammy! However... I'd still go with Maggie Thatcher. I don't think her policies were exactly right all the time, but she led, and led well. The fact that this did at times mean that the democratic nature of uk government was dismissed, as was anyone standing in her way, doesn't detract from how good a leader she was.
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                                                        This is my two cents...

                                                           
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