How to create an angry American

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Published Fri 27 Jul 2007, 910 Views, 68 Comments

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    Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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    Amazing piece of editing.

    I am so glad you posted this *S*

    There are so many Americans willing to stand up against a CRIMINAL administration and that is what this video shows. There are Americans willing to take a stand against a government that has committed horrendous crimes against the people here, and around the world. These people make me proud to be an American.
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      clemmati ~ 14 months ago
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      Yes, it really is good.
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        Gruntfutuck ~ 14 months ago
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        I had to say I thought Sean Penn's sentiments were spot on!
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          Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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          Im so glad he said what he said.

          :)
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        smartttman ~ 14 months ago
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        traitors, crinimals ALL!!! to guanotanamo with the lot of you!!
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          randomglenn ~ 14 months ago
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          Isn't Sean Penn just a girlie basher though? didn't he bash madonna ? i dunno
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            Gruntfutuck ~ 14 months ago
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            I'm not sure what Sean Penn's alleged propensity for domestic violence has to do with commenting on the lies told by the Bush administration to justify their invasion of Iraq.
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              Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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              :)
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            Tequila Rose ~ 14 months ago
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            hehehe@ random
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              Terro101 ~ 14 months ago
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              God damn it!!

              I watch stuff like that and the fury builds (Bush cracking jokes about W.M.D's) because they ARE gonna get away with it.

              Not since the holocaust has there been a deception of this scale. Thats the box I put those bastards in.

              Who gives a toss about Sean Penn, were you not listening. It's no-fucking- wonder the Bush-whacker got re-elected.
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                Terro101 ~ 14 months ago
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                And I dont know how anyone can 'be proud to be an American', I'm ashamed to be human with this kind of hypocritical liberating bullshit, and chicken-shit countries like Ireland, g.Britian, France etc. (And I'm Irish.) just sitting front-row and mumbling our disapproval while THEY laugh in their private clubs about the docility of the masses.
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                  Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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                  *S* i understand what you are saying, and it is shameful the way my government has behaved

                  hopefully people in other countries will understand that not all americans voted for george w bush, that many of us here are opposed to him and his bullshit

                  i am glad you posted how you really feel, and i know for a fact you aren't the only one who feels that way
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                  Tequila Rose ~ 14 months ago
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                  I am proud to be American.. and i will never be ashamed of it-
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                    jbravo ~ 14 months ago
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                    Me too, TR!
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                      Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                      Is this a case of "my country, right or wrong"?
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                        jbravo ~ 13 months ago
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                        I'll work through the problems with my country -- or more accurately, we'll work through them together. I'm not going to abandon it because of a few bumps in the road.
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                    Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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                    and you both voted for george w bush
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                      Tequila Rose ~ 13 months ago
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                      LMAO @ your continued ignorance of exactly how or what i vote or think....

                      isn't it funny that when an ostrich sticks its head in the sand it shows the world its ass
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                        Loves Bloc Party ~ 13 months ago
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                        oh okay, now you would rather not say who you voted for!

                        i understand :)
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                          Tequila Rose ~ 13 months ago
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                          you assume I have voted for a president? cute.. I keep my votes for the local, state, and state representatives - where they will do the most good in my opinion.. why cast a vote for anyone second rate. If there is a candidate that ever shows potential I will support them. I don't vote blindly for a party or an ideal and until the people of this country understand that do you HONESTLY ..deep down inside..think it matters who our president is? Whether they are a suck up or a war monger people will still hate the US.. including american citizens. We can't be a strong country while we are so fractured. This political system is outdated and needs revitalization.. so far no one has stepped up ... and that is why they dont' get my vote
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                            Loves Bloc Party ~ 13 months ago
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                            right, so you did vote for bush
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                              Tequila Rose ~ 13 months ago
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                              nice feathers... hehehe
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                                Loves Bloc Party ~ 13 months ago
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                                hmm i dont have any feathers *L*

                                :)
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                                  Loves Bloc Party ~ 13 months ago
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                                  just like there were NO wmds in iraq LMFAO
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                                    snak ~ 13 months ago
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                                    <>
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                      Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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                      im proud to be an american because the majority in this country are good people

                      how they elected a fucking bigoted dimwitted bastard, ill never understand
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                        clemmati ~ 13 months ago
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                        With an awful lot of help from the Supreme Court, is how.
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                        randomglenn ~ 14 months ago
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                        It has nothing to do with Sean Penns aledged propensity toward violence , just worth noting . And that he is an actor , one that hasn't done alot of decent work for a while , bandwagon much?
                        but still i can see the well made point to this very well edited youtube clip , although getting americans angry these days isn't that hard .
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                          randomglenn ~ 14 months ago
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                          Loves Bloc Party , we just elected a liar , our leader isn't stupid he just thinks we are.
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                            smartttman ~ 14 months ago
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                            you are all ignoraint and treacherous
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                              Terro101 ~ 14 months ago
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                              I slightly apologies, of course not all Americans are to blame. That was unfair of me.
                              I must try not to watch stuff like that anymore it does me no good.

                              Where are those pictures of sunflowers and lavender again, lol.
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                                Loves Bloc Party ~ 14 months ago
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                                clemmati posted those and they are gorgeous :)
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                                  clemmati ~ 14 months ago
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                                  They are healing, I think -- I love lavender,
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                                  Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                  I totally understand where you're coming from terro. It's the fact that they are just going to get away with it that's the most galling of all.
                                  Actually, scratch that, the hundreds of thousands of dead people is the *most* galling of all. Them getting away with it is a close second though.
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                                  georgie ~ 14 months ago
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                                  It's videos like that that make me a sad American, grunt. Very sad to see so many soldiers risking their lives to defend my country. At least the commander in chief and his administration could be honest about what they are really fighting for.
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                                    Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                    I understand and sympathise with your overall sentiment Georgie, and I mean no offence by this, but I just had to pick up this point - which soldiers are risking their lives to defend your country?
                                    I see a bunch of soldiers risking their lives to ensure your country's economic and military dominance, you could not describe what they are doing as defensive.
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                                      georgie ~ 13 months ago
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                                      Should have put quotes around "defend my country" then, I thought twice about that and left them out. I don't know if you've ever made a decision that could mean your potential death, like joining the US military, but I certainly have never had to be in that position. And I don't know what you have to believe in order to go out and fight for your country, no matter which country you come from, but I definitely think it takes one, many, or all of these belief systems, if not more 1) I should defend my country and its people 2) My country needs brave people to fight and possibly die 3) Fighting means serving my country 4) My country and its government need the military to defend its interests and protect against possible threat or attack 5) Our leaders and my direct superiors are intelligent and conscientous about the fact that my life is on the line and wouldn't put me in unnecessary risk 6) The military seems like my only option to make money, get an education, acquire real life skills, have better opportunities because resources are limited where I'm from 7) Our leaders know what's best and they are trying to save lives, promote peace, do the right thing and help people, even in the countries we occupy 8) Soldiers who fight and die for their countries are heroes, the list goes on depending on the person's perspective.

                                      I think you are coming from the top down perspective, that the US government will expend the lives of soldiers and military personnel to preserve its economic interests, and I'm not going to argue that one. I'm just thinking about the military personnel and their unique reasons for joining up in the first place, and how that might change over the course of a military career, and the messages they receive about what they are there to do and why. Many soldiers do believe they are risking their lives to defend other citizens of their countries, and you know what, regardless of the government's true agenda, I think that's true for the soldiers themselves. And they have to be some brave men and women to do it, to go out there and trust their government that much and to go up against what they have to face. Many young people in the military don't really have any other option besides maybe ending up in jail (I won't go into who may or may not be responsible for that situation in the States, but it's another top-down perspective). I'm just saying, I think that my previous comment had more ideas implied behind what I actually typed. It's more complicated than just saying that soldiers are defending my country. You got that right.
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                                    Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                    That's a fair perspective and I find nothing to disagree with.
                                    Don't get me wrong Georgie, I'm not having a go at the troops, (or you). I find it desperately sad that they are misused and misled in such a way and having had two good friends serve in Iraq I'm well aware of the complex issues and dilemmas they faced between duty to their fellow servicemen and their country and going to war for such a dubious cause.

                                    I'm sorry if it seemed pedantic picking up on that small phrase. I guess I was prompted more by the observation of how easy it appears to be to slip into this "defending my country" rhetoric, even if you know it's not strictly true.
                                    Maybe I read too much into it (or maybe I read too much Chomsky), but it's almost like a kind of linguistic conditioning - like if you repeat something often enough people will believe it's true and will repeat it themselves.
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                                      georgie ~ 13 months ago
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                                      Maybe unconsciously, I left out further explanation just to see who responded to the rhetoric ;) Not sure about that... I could have been blasted for that one and thanks for taking it easy on me Grunt!

                                      It's difficult for me to say anything against "our troops" because I want to understand and respect the sacrifices individual service men and women are making for whatever reason or belief system they have in place, however carefully constructed, as they are involved in Iraq. I'm sure there are varying understandings among them, and they have their own opinions, but they do the job. At the level of individual servicemen and women, I think it's an honorable job. I couldn't imagine having to go out there everyday and work so hard, representing leaders that are making some selfish decisions and all the while there are masses of people criticizing that government (and indirectly, soldiers and its military). I wonder if the men and women serving in Iraq sometimes feel totally unappreciated, unsupported, and angry about it.
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                                        Tequila Rose ~ 13 months ago
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                                        :) thank you for putting into better words than I could manage myself last night- I tried but had to delete my comments haha-

                                        I agree 100% = whether you believe in the cause of the war or not- saying you support the troops but can't support the nation they fight to protect has always sat wrong with me
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                                          Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                          I guess you missed the point about those troops not actually fighting to protect anything other than economic and military dominance, but hey-ho, can't reach everyone.
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                                            Tequila Rose ~ 13 months ago
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                                            And i'm glad my troops are fighting to protect my country's economic and military dominance- you say it like its a bad thing to want to have a strong and thriving nation.
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                                              Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                              It's a bad thing to want to have a strong and thriving nation by killing and invading other nations to do it, that's the point you seem to keep missing.
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                                                Tequila Rose ~ 13 months ago
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                                                but as Georgie has so eloquently pointed out- you can't go from point A. Troops protecting our way of life and us supporting that and jump directly to point B: A nation you believe is killing and invading others- There is way to much to consider in between-

                                                We do have an economic and military dominance in this world because there are men and women in this country who believe in fighting for the way of life that we have. These are the ones who join the military- and those who support the military in various ways.

                                                being upset with how the current US administration is handling things on a global front is one thing- but to say that we don't have justification to the national defense of our way of life is not a leap you should make because you're unhappy with our policies.

                                                You're trying to challenge a fundamental right of a nation.

                                                Irregardless of how I feel about the abuses both sides of the political parties have done TO the nation I live in- I will continue to whole heartedly support both my country and those who defend it.

                                                Which in my opinion, makes what you have said.. a moot point ( or a moo point for those Friend's fans out there)
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                                                  Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                                  OK Rose, let me try to explain. While I abhor the fact that our troops have been sent to invade Iraq illegally (imo) I have to respect the fact that they are doing a duty they signed up for and as such I would never cast any blame in their direction for carrying out that duty in a professional manner. It was my support for those troops that in part motivated me to protest against the invasion before it took place and it is my support for those troops that makes me want them to come home as soon as possible.

                                                  My ire is reserved for those people who forced those troops into that postion through lying and cheating, and when it comes right down to it, the prime justification was pursuit of wealth.

                                                  And when you say "You're trying to challenge a fundamental right of a nation."
                                                  Can I just point out that NO nation has a fundamental right to attack another except in self defence.
                                                  In order to justify the invasion of Iraq to the likes of you and the troops that had to fight it the Bush administration cooked up a bunch of lies about weapons of mass destruction - lies now utterly discredited
                                                  But it doesn't matter, because you and millions of other suckers just keep swallowing the next line of bullshit. I guess that's a moo point too ;-)
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                                                    Loves Bloc Party ~ 13 months ago
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                                                    :)

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                                      randomglenn ~ 13 months ago
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                                      This is an international thing too . What are the sentiments towards other nations that are involved . I'm interested if any of you have any thoughts on this matter.
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                                        smartttman ~ 13 months ago
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                                        what is wrong with my, "country right o r wong" can you tell me that if we had more real paritots willing to back up there country even when there country was rowng then we wouldn't habve the problem with terrorism we have today eveyr one is so concerned that it is "worng" to listen ion to private phone calls, to profile poeple according to there race, or to shoot poeple on sospicion of being terrists but waht is wrong with protecting yourslef or you fambly nothing i say so i belivee we should listen into phone calls without warrants profile arabic or islamic men and wmoan and shoot anyone we think is a teerorist and i will be pruod to call myslef a Brutish man
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                                          smartttman ~ 13 months ago
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                                          stop bieng ashmaed, tequlia roes, tell the wordl that your pruod you vetoed for gerogwe W bush
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                                            wokky ~ 13 months ago
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                                            At the risk of asking a seemingly obvious question (which i may have missed the finer wit of) do you deliberately type this badly, or just not check prior to posting comments, or just can't spell to save yourself?

                                            The reason I ask is it seems to me one of the reasons I struggle to take you seriously is the appalling spelling in your posts. It is difficult to subscribe to the notion that you are tertiary qualified with the level of literacy being displayed.

                                            Of course the other equally likely explanation is this is deliberate typing with the intent of making some distinct point of reference.

                                            e.g. I'm not not sure if you're saying you are British citizen, or a brute. Nor am I sure if you're saying georgie should be proud to vetoe GW, or that she should be proud (an assumption?) that she voted for him.

                                            Maybe I am slow of wit . . . . . . . .
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                                              Loves Bloc Party ~ 13 months ago
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                                              he is not to be taken seriously lol
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                                                smartttman ~ 13 months ago
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                                                All you left leaning radicals of a liberal socialism agenda are slow of wit you cannoit expect me to type more slowly simply so you can keep up with my thoughts your wither in the game or not in the game as they say he "who hesitates" and so forht
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                                                  wokky ~ 13 months ago
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                                                  actually I'm about as right wing as you can get without being a dictator, but thanks for clearing up the facts surrounding your level of competency with a keyboard as the reason for you butchering the English langauge.

                                                  I've held off commenting on this (and the dozen or so other diatribes on the same topic) as it's a position I reached, oh, I don't know, four years ago?

                                                  To be frank, I'm surprised its taken so long for everyone to smell the napalm.
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                                                    Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                                    wokky - smartttman is just a parody. Compare and contrast the writings of starrman (who is quite possibly also just a parody)
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                                                      clemmati ~ 13 months ago
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                                                      Grunt you are giving the game away!
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                                              vadagh ~ 13 months ago
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                                              AAAARGHHH!! politics, it can just kiss my hairy ar*e. All politicians and lawyers should be..... * fill in this point with whatever you want*
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                                                Tequila Rose ~ 13 months ago
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                                                Philosopher Harry Binswanger remarked recently:

                                                “America’s security does not require that a proper government be installed in Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. Our security requires only that the various fanatical bands in the region know full well that the moment they raise a hint of a threat to Americans, they will be crushed. We should let Baathists, Shiites, Hamas, the PLO, Al Qada, and Hezbollah all fight each other – as long as they all know they must keep clear of America….If the Arab/Muslim populations are not culturally advanced enough to embrace the institutions of a free society, that is their problem, not ours….”
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                                                  Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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                                                  Bit of a racist diatribe, but never mind.
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                                                    clemmati ~ 13 months ago
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                                                    More than a bit. Also really rather ignorant. Yes racism is also ignorant, but this man seems, in addition, to be ill-informed about the history of Arab and Muslim -- not to be conflated -- countries, peoples and states, and the history of democracies. (Etc.)

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                                                      Gruntfutuck ~ 13 months ago
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